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Troubleshooting • Re: pps-gpio not loading on trixie on Rpi 5 (PTP issue)

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The main problem is that, when you then use the /dev/pps0 with ntp and flag3=1 (kernel mode), NTP will work for a while:

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SSH is enabled and the default password for the 'pi' user has not been changed.This is a security risk - please login as the 'pi' user and type 'passwd' to set                                               a new password.pi@raspberrypi:~ $ ntpq -np     remote                                   refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset   jitter=======================================================================================================oPPS(0)                                  .PPS.            0 l    6   16  377   0.0000   1.0029   0.1201*NMEA(0)                                 .NMEA.           0 l   11   16  377   0.0000   3.9189   1.2090

then the refclocks will both be (x) and falsetickers:

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pi@raspberrypi:~ $ ntpq -np     remote                                   refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset   jitter=======================================================================================================xPPS(0)                                  .PPS.            0 l    6   16  377   0.0000   0.0780   0.0068xNMEA(0)                                 .NMEA.           0 l   11   16  377   0.0000   2.7937   1.1579
and NTP will then complain in the log:

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Nov 05 23:35:49 raspberrypi ntpd[862]: REFCLOCK: refclock_params: kernel PLL (hardpps, RFC 1589) not implemented

And I suspect its because pps_core is not somehow "fetching" the /dev/pps0, so its not "kernel pps0" but a "software pps0" which doesn't work with flag3=1, thus ntpd can't get a PLL lock on /dev/pps0

So on my system the following is how it looks:

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pi@raspberrypi:~ $ lsmod | grep ppspps_gpio               16384  0pi@raspberrypi:~ $ dmesg | grep pps[    0.078379] pps_core: LinuxPPS API ver. 1 registered[    0.078399] pps_core: Software ver. 5.3.6 - Copyright 2005-2007 Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@linux.it>[    0.078399] PTP clock support registered
On a "working" system, LinuxPPS will say:

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pi@raspberrypi:~ $ lsmod | grep ppspps_gpio               16384  0pps_core               16384  1 pps_gpiopi@raspberrypi:~ $ dmesg | grep pps[    0.078379] pps_core: LinuxPPS API ver. 1 registered[    0.078399] pps_core: Software ver. 5.3.6 - Copyright 2005-2007 Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@linux.it>[    4.539724] pps pps0: new PPS source pps@12.-1[    4.539824] pps pps0: Registered IRQ 39 as PPS source

So thats why I suspect PTP somehow prevents the pps_core from "taking in" the /dev/pps0 device as a valid PPS source.


Note that ppstest /dev/pps0 will work in both cases, because ppstest seem to not care if /dev/pps0 is "kernel" or "software":

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root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# ppstest /dev/pps0trying PPS source "/dev/pps0"found PPS source "/dev/pps0"ok, found 1 source(s), now start fetching data...source 0 - assert 1762388440.999940636, sequence: 3005 - clear  0.000000000, sequence: 0source 0 - assert 1762388441.999939175, sequence: 3006 - clear  0.000000000, sequence: 0source 0 - assert 1762388442.999939725, sequence: 3007 - clear  0.000000000, sequence: 0source 0 - assert 1762388443.999939265, sequence: 3008 - clear  0.000000000, sequence: 0source 0 - assert 1762388444.999938537, sequence: 3009 - clear  0.000000000, sequence: 0source 0 - assert 1762388445.999937190, sequence: 3010 - clear  0.000000000, sequence: 0source 0 - assert 1762388446.999937149, sequence: 3011 - clear  0.000000000, sequence: 0source 0 - assert 1762388447.999937210, sequence: 3012 - clear  0.000000000, sequence: 0^Croot@raspberrypi:/home/pi#

Statistics: Posted by sebastiannielsen — Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:18 am



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